Ep 15: Join in or bugger off

Crabb hates showtunes and Sales hates birds, so why not spend the episode talking about both? Join them in the piano room (aka the yoga room) while they talk about the difference between popular and literary writing. Plus, Crabb and Sales read their favourite mean-spirited iTunes reviews.

• Caroline O'Connor interview by Leigh Sales via 7.30

• Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty

• The Rosie Effect by Graeme Simsion

• I Am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes

• Peas and Queues: The Minefield of Modern Manners by Sandi Toksvig

• Lucky Us by Amy Bloom

• Little Failure by Gary Shteyngart

• Xinran's columns via The Guardian

• Buy Me the Sky: The Remarkable Truth of China's One-Child Generations by Xinran

• H is for Hawk by Helen Macdonald

• Helen Macdonald interview with Richard Fidler

• My Side of the Mountain by Jean Craighead George

• The books of Gerald Durrell

• Lace by Shirley Conran

• Leila Jeffries Photography

• Russian Trolls via The New York Times Magazine

• The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin by Masha Gessen